August 01, 2010
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Ok, so my holistic guru suggested I stop my current TCM regimne and start the new one next cycle. Here is what was recommended for me (I have had 6 m/cs and have endo and the TCM has REALLY helped with the pain, blood stasis, etc): Six Flavor Pill w/ Rehmannia, Chi Shao, and moutan - Pre O Free & Easy Wanderer Pill - Post O Epimedium *Should work in restructuring uterus naturally vs. Lupron And for DH: still his vitamins but add cornus fruit for added motility in sperm I am quite happy with this as much easier to take 3 pills instead of how many right now??? Still take my Prenatals, of course. Anyone else done this method??? I trust this will work in some shape or form even if not get me prego considering the success had with TCM already in few months and considering these pills have been around for thousands of yrs!!! I start acupuncture in a week! Yea!!! (I don't react well to medications, but do to herbs, etc. That is why doing this path!). Have my surgery next cycle and then would start all this. My other question is: anyone have suggestions for a great conditioning organic body wash, shampoo, and conditioner? My normal stuff worked great for summer but not so much now that weather is getting colder. I prefer to not order a ton of expensive products, so suggestions are appreciated!!! I really prefer the organic so not have weird stuff getting into my body. Thx.

9/17/2008-10/10/2008 (estimated 24 day cycle)


BBT Chart - English

PhaseFollicular PhaseLuteal Phase (DPO)
Cycle Day12345678910111213141516171819202122232425
Day17181920212223242526272829301234567891011
Day of WeekWTFSSMTWTFSSMTWTFSSMTWTFS
DPO Day123456789101112
Waking
Temp		99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
9999999999999999999999999
8888888888888888888888888
7777777777777777777777777
6666666666666666666666666
5555555555555555555555555
4444444444444444444444444
3333333333333333333333333
22222222222222222222222
11111111111111111111111
98989898989898989898989898989898989898989898989898
99999999999999999999999
8888888888888888888
777777777777777777777777
6666666666666666666666666
555555555555555555555555
4444444444444444444444444
333333333333333333333333
2222222222222222222222222
1111111111111111111111111
97979797979797979797979797979797979797979797979797
9999999999999999999999999
8888888888888888888888888

Symptoms Chart

PhaseFollicular PhaseLuteal Phase (DPO)
Cycle Day12345678910111213141516171819202122232425
Day17181920212223242526272829301234567891011
Day of WeekWTFSSMTWTFSSMTWTFSSMTWTFS
Period
Ovulation
Intercourse
Doc Apt
AB: RhoGam Shot
AC: Allergies/Not Feeling Well for Whatever
AC: Drastic Weather Chg
AC: Poor Sleep
AF Flow Black
AF Flow Brown-Black
AF Flow Brown-Red
AF Flow Dark Mix
AF Flow Red
AF Spotting
Cervix Hard
Cervix Moisture
Cervix Position
Cervix Sensitive
Cervix Soft
CM Cloudy
CM Dry/Little Sticky
CM EW (ewcm)
CM Milky/Creamy
CM Sticky
Exercise: Pilates
Exercise: Yoga Hatha
Exercise:Yoga Kundalini
H: AF-O Asian Ginseng
H: AF-O Black Cohosh
H: AF-O Dong Quai
H: AF-O EPO
H: All Cycle Omega 3s
H: All Cycle P. Vit. (extra iron, Bs, etc)
H: All Cycle Pycnogenol/GrapeS
H: All Cycle Rasp. Leaf Tea
H: Fertility Builder ;)
H: Post O Progesterone Cream
H: Soy Protein
S: Blemish(es)
S: Bloated
S: Breast Soreness
S: Breasts Swollen, Heavy
S: Cramping
S: Emotional
S: Fatigue
S: Low Grade Fever During Day
S: Migraine
S: Moodiness
S: Movement & Twinges
S: Nausea Extreme!
S: Nausea, hdache, etc NON-AF
S: Ovarian Pain
S: Pinching/Back Pain
Urine HPT
Urine OPKs
Urine Test Strips 20mIUshCG

Comments

babydustglitter asked on 10/1/2008 11:34:04 AM Report this post
Ok, so my holistic guru suggested I stop my current TCM regimne and start the new one next cycle. Here is what was recommended for me (I have had 6 m/cs and have endo and the TCM has REALLY helped with the pain, blood stasis, etc):

Six Flavor Pill w/ Rehmannia, Chi Shao, and moutan - Pre O

Free & Easy Wanderer Pill - Post O

Epimedium

*Should work in restructuring uterus naturally vs. Lupron

And for DH: still his vitamins but add cornus fruit for added motility in sperm


I am quite happy with this as much easier to take 3 pills instead of how many right now??? Still take my Prenatals, of course.

Anyone else done this method??? I trust this will work in some shape or form even if not get me prego considering the success had with TCM already in few months and considering these pills have been around for thousands of yrs!!! I start acupuncture in a week! Yea!!! (I don't react well to medications, but do to herbs, etc. That is why doing this path!). Have my surgery next cycle and then would start all this.

My other question is: anyone have suggestions for a great conditioning organic body wash, shampoo, and conditioner? My normal stuff worked great for summer but not so much now that weather is getting colder. I prefer to not order a ton of expensive products, so suggestions are appreciated!!! I really prefer the organic so not have weird stuff getting into my body. Thx.

babydustglitter said on 10/1/2008 11:35:27 AM Report this post
BTW, if you notice, my excess heat is gone in LP!!! YEA!!!

globug27 said on 10/1/2008 12:39:42 PM Report this post
nice chart girl... =)...especially the bd part... lol! we only got in 1 bd 2 days b4 O, who knows, right? I really don't know anything about all you conditions, what is TCM...? sorry I'm a dummy...=) ttyl
-gb <><

babydustglitter said on 10/1/2008 2:25:38 PM Report this post
TCM is traditional Chinese medicine. I read a book a few months back on it after searching online for hours for help with my endo as I really don't want to have surgery every 1 1/2 for it and the meds are horrific to your system (Lupron and pain meds). It is called "The Infertility Cure". I couldn't believe I hadn't heard of it! You take this long survey and match up your symptoms and any issues such as endo, PCOS, etc and it helps you plot a TCM 'cure' to your infertility. It doesn't claim to work over night!!! But I started in June and my PMDD is gone and I am down to just reg PMS. :) I used to be bed ridden for 2 days with such bad cramps and flu-like symptoms! I still get some of those symptoms but the severity is wayyyyy less.

Do you think my temps are ok? They are sooooo low for me! Usually I have a low-grade fever post O! Hope this means my excess heat is gone for good as that means my uterus is repairing itself! I had to X out the poor sleep, AF, and RhoGAM days. The weather changed to be almost 25 degrees cooler yesterday so maybe that is why my temps are low??? Probably. I am cramping and had dream AF started! Hope not already!!! AHHHH!!!


I wouldn't worry too much about BD as I have heard of people having it only once many times and getting a BFP!!!

wolffbaby said on 10/28/2008 11:50:23 PM Report this post
I have been looking through the posts to see if anyone is using TCM. And I found it!

After AF wouldn't leave for a month, then came back for another month 9 days later, then started again. I called my doctor after the first month and she said it was normal because AF didn't show for 4 months prior. Then I called again and she prescribed prometrium. That didn't stop it, it got worse. Then they put me back on BC, and that made it even worse! Finally, went to the ER and they found nothing wrong with me! Went to another Dr and she put me on aygestin, it worked but AF came 6 days before I was suppose to stop taking it. So, I got fed up with doctors giving me drugs to treat symptoms and not the problem, so I went to a nutritionist who practices TCM. SHE IS AN EXPERT BECAUSE SHE HAD ENDO FOR 10 YEARS! She was able to get herself healthy and she was able to concieve and carry her son full-term!

I have never felt better!!! She told me that I was estrogen dominant. I learned that meats, fruits, vegies, and anything not organic are pumped full of hormones (Estrogen!!) to make them bigger. Also, everyday products like cleaning solutions, makeup, almost everthing has xeno-estrogens in them. These xeno-estrogens take up all of the spaces on our cells normally reserved for testosterone, real estrogen, progesterone etc. Google xeno-estrogens, you will be suprised to see what you find!

So, I stopped using Chemicals to clean my house. I eat only organic fruits, veggies and meats. I can't change everything but the most important ones I did.

I also take an herbal supliment that feeds my uterus and ovaries, herbal supliments for intestinal issues, and vitamins of course. I went on BC 10 years ago for the same issue, I have never had a regular cycle, but I do now!!!

I really feel that the TCM has gotten to the root of my girl part problems instead of taking a chemical fake hormone to cover the problem. I am a firm believer in TCM. Good Luck!!!


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